Interesting question. According to the laws, you are not allowed to move until your own clock has been started. While the opponent's clock is going, it's his time to do with as he pleases.
"A player must always be allowed to stop his clock. His move is not considered to have been completed until he has done so, unless the move that was made ends the game. (See the Articles 5.1.a, 5.2.a, 5.2.b, 5.2.c and 9.6)
The time between making the move on the chessboard and stopping his own clock and starting his opponent‘s clock is regarded as part of the time allotted to the player."
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"A player must always be allowed to stop his clock. His move is not considered to have been completed until he has done so, unless the move that was made ends the game. (See the Articles 5.1.a, 5.2.a, 5.2.b, 5.2.c and 9.6)
The time between making the move on the chessboard and stopping his own clock and starting his opponent‘s clock is regarded as part of the time allotted to the player."
www.fide.com/component/handbook/?id=124&view=article
I had a question in a USCF game similar to this. I was in time trouble and my opponent was down to 10m I had 3. My opponent got up to get a drink of water and he made a move and did not hit his clock. I waited and he drained 5 min on his clock. He came back and made a move eventually then hit his clock but it was not his turn and he had not hit his clock from the move before. He never hit his clock so I did not make a move. I was confused and so was he. Does that violate the touch move rule or is that just a random flook that got by? If he did have to move the piece he touched I would have checked him and took his queen.
Probably the sporting thing to do (and least confusing for all involved as well!) would be to point out to him as he got up to leave that he forgot to hit his clock after moving.
However technically speaking it's like he moved two pieces during his turn which is illegal. According to the FIDE rules, what's supposed to happen when things like that happen is you go back to the last known legal position, try to reset the clocks to what they were then as best as you can, and carry on from there.
However that's for normal play games. For blitz games, the rule is usually that if you make an illegal move, the opponent can claim a win.
I think some FIDE rules can be varied by event organizers as well. If you read the Rules and Regulations for a league or tournament (not usually a very interesting thing to do!) you'll see comments to the effect that "FIDE rules apply, except for X, Y & Z".
However technically speaking it's like he moved two pieces during his turn which is illegal. According to the FIDE rules, what's supposed to happen when things like that happen is you go back to the last known legal position, try to reset the clocks to what they were then as best as you can, and carry on from there.
However that's for normal play games. For blitz games, the rule is usually that if you make an illegal move, the opponent can claim a win.
I think some FIDE rules can be varied by event organizers as well. If you read the Rules and Regulations for a league or tournament (not usually a very interesting thing to do!) you'll see comments to the effect that "FIDE rules apply, except for X, Y & Z".
Yes. However this was not blitz it was G/2hr with a 5s delay.
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While acknowledging the answer, I find it strange, though, since once a move has been done, it cannot be taken back. What would be the reason to keep the clock running after having played ?
While acknowledging the answer, I find it strange, though, since once a move has been done, it cannot be taken back. What would be the reason to keep the clock running after having played ?
aln67 thats exactly my thinking! after a move is completed it can't be taken back so the other player should be allowed to move? but its very confusing
Well if you deliberately moved while his clock was running, you'd have used his time instead of yours. If he then lost on time by a few seconds, how would that not be cheating?
Obviously there's normally no reason not to hit the clock right after making a move. But in that case, there's no reason not to wait for the clock to be hit either.
Obviously there's normally no reason not to hit the clock right after making a move. But in that case, there's no reason not to wait for the clock to be hit either.
He moved and did not hit his clock. He got up and walked around for a min then came back and made another move. I just sat and waited but he never hit his clock the first time so when he came back he moved his queen and I said "it is not your turn. you never hit your clock when you got up." He took his move back and we continued playing after he hit is clock for the previous move. Strange incident but confusing per rules.
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