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OK, as CE allowed himself to post a negative feedback here, I would like to counter it with the same proposition.
Any player should be apprised of the fact that the current game is streamed or recorded somewhere, and later the game should appear on youtube with your real name in the title. That some strangers watching the game might laugh at you and call you an idiot, because of completely irrelevant accident with Anna Rudolf.

Opinions of streamers shouldn't be counted. Because for CE and KC streaming is a money source, and people are ready to do anything to get some money.

UPD: on reddit CE indicates that he plays with a lot of cheaters on lichess and that's why he is against "authorized form of human cheating". Why the heck he didn't post this here, but on reddit?!!

#28 @DunnoItAll Perfect post with reasonable logic appealing to me. Adding on, I feel that lichess should also nullify GM Chessjuice's rating and tourney points earned in the games played while live consultation with another person on stream (as it was clearly against the rules and though @thibault granted exclusive permission, no attempt was made to notify others competing in the tournament) , now that they've apparently modified the ToS.

Debating the issue is fine but its absolutely ridiculous that some people threaten to remove their patronage and shift to another site when a certain topic is being debated by the community . Secondly many posts in this forum are targeted against Tal who isnt the topic of the debate, the topic is if particular streamers can be allowed to talk about moves teaming up while playing to increase the instructional value.

#65 Yes heard that comment. I'm shocked! Do they think being GM entitle them to behave exactly like they want to. This seems not real.

It seems to me that Thibault made a genuine mistake. But it's a mistake that is negatively impacting Lichess and for this reason I hope that the community can move on - after all streamers are rare & team streaming is rarer still. I know this sounds tepid (?) but this superb chess platform is worth a few compromises.

Not sure why I am refreshing this thread every minute now for the past 3 hours distressed! I guess I need to see a doc! lol :) Lighten up guys. Cheers.

BTW Kingcrusher and chessexplained, you complain about teams, yet you both play Banter Blitz on chess24, where teams play as well and they play rated as well with . This is from May 2016 where GM Gustafsson & IM Trent play. You can see that Gustafsson is consulting with Trent as well (in other episodes he lets other players (weaker and stronger) use his account to play (like chessbrahs do). When did you complain about this? Or is it just when you get paid by a site for doing banter blitz, you suddenly keep quiet about these really "serious" breaks of TOS?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-tBDlRXhY

I unsubbed both of your channels on YouTube, due to your hypocrisy. In the case of Kingcrusher more because of the despicable way he attacked Amadan of cheating, without doing any analysis on the way he played, just because he lost. I think in this case it is the same. He can not stand to lose to a clearly better player (he beserks against him which is clearly ridiculous, if you want to have any chance against a GM, and then complains his opponent had a better chance because he teamed up and did not beserk "back"). From the way he acted against Amadan, I can see how Kingcrusher acts out of an insulted ego against chessjuice, as they made fun of him after he did not resign in a clearly lost position, where every strong player would resign against a GM.

I am done with this discussion.

In a chess24 Banter Blitz format the titled player streaming, or in the case mentioned players (Gustafsson and Vogel) are challenged by the site members. They decide to play the 'team' actively and they may also challenge to an unrated game if they like to. It is their choice/decision. They also know that there is a team playing before they challenge.
However here you have to accept to play the occasional streamer team if you decide to play a tournament for rated games. I think the difference is quite obvious.

This is a legitimate discussion to have. Please keep it civil.